Sympathy for The Devil – God Loves Satan, says Catholic Apologist

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"You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and he stood not in the truth; because truth is not in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof."  ~ JESUS CHRIST, Gospel of Saint John 8:44

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IMPORTANT NOTE:  Please understand that this article is not meant as a commentary on Jimmy Akin personally or the organization he works for.  It is presented to raise awareness and alertness to a much bigger and far more important idea that the authors hope will at the very least give true believers great pause.

In a youtube video titled 'Does God love Lucifer?' uploaded on October 20, 2010 by the Catholic Answers radio show, Jimmy Akin, the Senior Apologist of Catholic Answers confidently states that the 'Catholic Answer' to the question "Does God love Lucifer?" is:  Yes.
It's now been almost five years since the clip aired and the Senior Apologist still hasn't apologized.

Here is the video along with a transcript below:

TRANSCRIPT:
CALLER:   "If everything that God made is beautiful and if God loves everything that He made, does He still love Lucifer even though he is the fallen angel?"

AKIN:   "Yes.  God loves all of the good things there are about the Devil, and there are many good things about the Devil.  He's intelligent.  He's got a lot of power – things like that.  Those are all attributes that God gave him as well as the attributes that He gives the other angels and that He gives us.  So, those are all positive things and God loves the Devil in that sense.  He does not love what the Devil has done with his will, which is to choose evil and to choose hatred and to choose the opposite of love.  So, the positive things, yes God loves – the negative things, no He doesn't. 

CALLER:  "Just like us."

AKIN:  "Yeah.  Now, there's another twist to this though that in much of Catholic theology it's been commonly understood, and this is especially true in the Thomisitic tradition from Saint Thomas Aquinas, that God's love is different from ours.  Our love looks at a created good and is attracted to it, so if we see something beautiful, we're attracted to that and that's what love is for us – that attraction we experience to things that are good.  God's love is different in that He's the one giving the good thing to a particular being and so the way God loves someone is not by being attracted to them but is by making them good, by giving them good attributes."

 

Satan's Makeover

LUCIFER: Pictured: Tom Ellis as Lucifer. ©2015 Fox Broadcasting Co. CR: John P. Fleenor/FOX

LUCIFER: Pictured: Tom Ellis as Lucifer. ©2015 Fox Broadcasting Co. CR: John P. Fleenor/FOX

This fall a new television show called 'Lucifer' will premiere in prime time.  The show is produced by Fox and is an adaptation of a spinoff comic book series of the same name created by Neil Gaiman.  The show's premise is simple enough:  Lucifer Morningstar, the Lord of Hell, becomes bored and unhappy, renounces his throne in Hell, and incarnates in Los Angeles where he opens a nightclub called Lux and also helps the police solve crimes.
Some Christians were so upset by the show that they began petitions to stop it from airing because they said "The series will focus on Lucifer portrayed as a good guy".  The controversial Fox project does ultimately begin with the proposition:  Maybe, just maybe, Satan is not all bad after all.
We should not be surprised that a TV show might brazenly unleash this kind of sensational and perhaps scandalous ideology, since the entertainment industry obviously works in the realm of fantasy and fiction.  However, the bold assertion that Mr. Akin makes while wearing the title of 'Senior Apologist' under a label of 'Catholic' is fundamentally no different.
Mr. Akin does not give a breath's pause before answering or even feel the need to begin with an "I know this will sound shocking…" before recklessly proclaiming that God loves the Devil.  He too is in essence saying "Hey folks, the Devil is not all bad" and strongly implying that "God is so loving that He could never hate anyone or anything – not even Satan himself."  Please also note that Jimmy Akin chooses to specifically use the word "Devil" to make it very clear that he means (present tense) Satan, the enemy of God and not simply the created angel Lucifer before his fall.  The apologist works hard to make the case that there are "good things about the Devil" and even needs to go further in stating that "there are many good things about the Devil".  Both of these claims are dead wrong and very dangerous should any soul actually believe them.  This kind of confusing indoctrination, whether it comes from a television series or much worse a 'Catholic' radio show,  is the very beginnings of Luciferianism.



Does God Really
Love The Devil?

No.  God does not love the Devil.  There is nothing good in the Devil.  There is not one drop of God's Love left in that beast. Because of this truth, we must never compare a human being who may commit an evil act within a living condition (meaning during his/her earthly life) but who is still offered the possibility of repentance and the gift of absolution with a wretched and damned creature which possesses no God (hence, the consequent incapability to feel any remorse) but only the sheer darkness of eternal death.
Indeed, the Devil is the very enemy of Life. And Life Is Christ Himself, for He Said so in John 14:16 – "Thomas said to Him, 'Lord, we do not know where You are going. How do we know the way?' Jesus said to him, 'I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me'."
The evil one is the very enemy of God, hence the entire cause of God's sufferings since Adam's tragic fall from grace to death changed the nature with which all things come into existence, it involving the stamp of death being imprinted unto all men's souls regardless of the fact that God Creates all things but sin. That covenant of terror taking place in the garden of eternal perfection, being offered by the serpent and finalized by our fore-parents' consummation of a satanic "eucharist" in the form of an apple, desecrated all that comes from God by perverting it into its very contrary. Because of the gravity of such abomination and its consequences, as well as the unfathomable suffering caused by men's betrayal of God, it was the Lord's Self-Sacrifice of separation from within Himself and between the Father and the Son, of taking upon Himself the humiliation of being clothed by the same attributes of sinners, and of freely accepting His Own plan of becoming the brutally tortured victim killed by the same ones He Loves, that will continue to involve God in a on-going Calvary He never desired to begin with. This condition of slavery He freely Takes upon Himself each and every second of our despicable human history despite the incomprehensible amount of evil that, channeled through the door of our disobedience, is being inflicted upon God by a torturing Satan. This is the condition in which God willingly, and out of a Mercy most mysterious for our poor arid souls to even perceive, Becomes the only innocent and suffering party within a triangular relationship that never was meant to exist. He purposely Decides to allow the poisoning smoke of Satan's deceit upon mankind to cast a shadow upon the glory of His State, trapping Himself into the small dimensions of our earthly time so as to live the full weight of each sin, of each thought, of each action, of each word of each and every life in which they take place. Just as if a King were to leave His Castle in order to live in the midst of his kingdom's poorest so as to help them day after day while suffering from others' sufferings ~ all while having full memory of that glorious condition He willingly renounced to. This is to give away gold in exchange of mud, or even better, to gift others with the most expensive Champagne in exchange of some bitter vinegar. This unfair resolve decided by the one who also inflicts it upon himself for the sake of still loving the sinner irremediably comes at the price of being insulted by a laughing Satan standing in front of a nailed and weeping Lamb.
In this context, the Almighty God Chooses to permit our race to continue living on earth (and to continue to have the undeserved and unimaginable opportunity to enjoy the gifts of the Fruit of Redemption) at the constant price of being tortured by that same adulterous covenant that cast men into labor and serpents unto their bellies. Now, if we ponder on the fact that this triangular relationship (and the cost it involves) ought to be multiplied about eight billion times (the rough amount of today's world population) we can at least give up on trying to imagine what could never be contained in our minds and, instead, pick up our Rosaries and let our hearts meditate on God's Mysteries. 

The devil's doomed condition remains forever unchangeable.  We know so for it is written that the Beast shall be thrown into the lake of fire for eternity.  As Akin gives the list of the "many good things about the Devil", some of which allegedly being that "he is intelligent" and that "he's got a lot of power", radio host Patrick Coffin makes a quick intervention by adding that "he [the devil] exists", thus stating that by existing something (in this case, the infernal beast) is automatically loved by God. This is completely untrue, for to exist does not necessarily mean "to be filled with life", for even sin exists despite the fact that, being death in itself, it truly is the very killer of life. Because of this, we know that God does not love all things that exist, for He Hates sin and its origin.  Therefore, Satan is not to be perceived as a "living" creature but rather as a creature existing in a state of eternal death within a place outside of God's realm and in which only perpetual darkness – along with all the horrors that come with it – can be found. This place is called Hell. Since everything within this doomed place is void of God and of His Light, all existing creatures are now perpetually filled with all and only those evils which God Despises today as much as He did yesterday.

In addition we could add that God cannot love the Devil because in His infinite knowledge He Knows that such a proud, evil and ungrateful beast will never be able to change for he will never find an atom of regret within himself (having no love left in him).  This means that the Devil is pure and only pure evil, which could never be loved by God in any possible way whatsoever.  God cannot love sheer evil.  God hates sin and Satan is the very origin of such rebellion.  Mortal sin brings death to a human being's soul, and such a horrific act springs from the beast's irreparably ill mind.  The Lord Is incapable of loving the source of eternal hatred, darkness, self-obsession, self-worship, pride, murder, envy, theft, deceit, sexual perversity, rebellion, blasphemy and the thousands of remaining abominations.
God CANNOT love either sin or its origin (the Devil), which are the cause of billions of souls having already fallen into eternal perdition despite the inestimable price of Redemption: JESUS CHRIST'S PASSION AND DEATH ON THE CROSS.

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19 comments for “Sympathy for The Devil – God Loves Satan, says Catholic Apologist

  1. Lou
    April 18, 2019 at 5:51 AM

    Scripture says that "God is love" does it not?

    • The WILDVOICE
      April 21, 2019 at 2:03 PM

      Here are some answers to your question:

      “You are just like your true father, the devil; and you spend your time pursuing the things your father loves. He started out as a killer, and he cannot tolerate truth because he is void of anything true. At the core of his character, he is a liar; everything he speaks originates in these lies because he is the father of lies.”
      — John 8:44

      “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.”
      — Matthew 25:41

      In St. Louis De Montfort’s Marian treatise under the section 51 entitled “Exercise of This Function, Mary in the Struggle against Satan” he writes, “It is to our purpose to explain this here for the glory of the most holy Virgin, for the salvation of her children and for the confusion of the devil: “I will put enmities between thee and the woman and thy seed, she shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel” (Gen. 3:15).

      1. God had never made and formed but one enmity; but it is an irreconcilable one, which shall endure and grow even to the end.
      2. It is between Mary, His worthy Mother, and the devil—between the children, and the servants of the Blessed Virgin, and the children and tools of Lucifer.
      3. This most terrible of all the enemies which God has set up against the devil is His holy Mother Mary.
      4. He has inspired her – with so much hatred against that cursed enemy of God, with so much ingenuity in unveiling the malice of that ancient serpent, with so much power to conquer, to overthrow and to crush that proud, impious rebel – that he fears her not only more than all angels and men, but in a sense more than God Himself.
      5. Satan, being proud, suffers infinitely more from being beaten and punished by a little and humble handmaid of God, and Her humility has humbled him the more than the divine power; and secondly,
      6. Because God has given Mary such great power against the devils that – as they have often been obliged to confess, by the mouths of the possessed – that they fear one of her sighs for a soul more than the prayer of all the saints, and one of her threats against them more than all other torments.
      7. What Lucifer has lost by pride, Mary has gained by humility. What Eve has damned and lost by disobedience, Mary has saved by obedience. Eve, in obeying the serpent, has destroyed all her children together with herself, and has delivered them to him;
      8. Mary, in being perfectly faithful to God, has saved all her children and servants together with herself, and has consecrated them to His Majesty.
      9. God has not only set an enmity, but enmities, not simply between Mary and the devil, but between the race of the holy Virgin and the race of the devil’ that is to say, God has set enmities, antipathies and secret hatreds between the true children and servants of Mary and the children and slaves of the devil. They have no love for each other. They have no sympathy for each other.
      10. The children of Belial, the slaves of Satan, the friends of the world (for it is the same thing) have always up to this time persecuted those who belong to our Blessed Lady, and will in the future persecute them more than ever; just as Cain, of old, persecuted his brother Abel, and Esau his brother Jacob, who are the figures of the reprobate and the predestined.
      11. But the humble Mary will always have the victory over that proud spirit, and so great a victory that she will go so far as to crush his head, where his pride dwells. She will always discover the malice of the serpent. She will always lay bare his infernal plots and dissipate his diabolical councils, and even to the end of time guard her faithful servants from his cruel claw.

    • The WILDVOICE
      April 21, 2019 at 2:13 PM

      Please find the passage in which Jesus Christ allegedly tells us to "love the devil as yourself".

      • Louise Winant
        April 29, 2019 at 11:49 AM

        I pose the question for the mystery that it presents. How can God hate when He is, according to His own testimony, Love itself? If God is Love, by His very nature, then is it not probable that all of His actions and decisions are judgments of love, not actions of hate. In other words, just as His thoughts are so far above ours that we cannot comprehend them, so too His love filled actions. When scripture says in Proverbs 13:24 that refusing to properly discipline one's child is actually hating one's own child, most of us would not concede to our hating our own children. Most would consider this a failing of loving too much. These thoughts are diametrically opposed. God's wisdom says differently. When Our Lord used a whip to drive out the moneychangers, He did so in love. All of His actions whether kind or harsh were done in love. I will venture to continue in the belief that all of God's actions are done in Love as Love is who He is. When God cast Satan with his fallen cohort out of Heaven, He did so in love and when He condemns a soul to hell it is done also in love. Love, meaning desiring the “all good or best” of the beloved. Satan's complete rejection of God's Love is manifest hatred by contrast, desiring “all harm, the worst”. Satan's choice was mercifully ratified by God, who is Love. I understand Satan's condemnation for all eternity as evidence of God's mercy and love not of God's hatred. I am reminded of the scene in Lord of the Rings when Gandalf chastises Frodo for wishing Bilbo had killed Gollum when he had the chance. Gandalf suggests that Bilbo's pity for the creature Gollum “may rule the fate of many” and indeed Bilbo's mercy inadvertently saves Middle Earth as it is the creature Gollum who ultimately destroys the ring by means of His own malice. I believe that it is God's mercy that condemns a human soul to Hell. It is clearer to me now that the meaning of hate and love as described in scripture has mainly to do with action not emotion. Enmity is the state of being actively opposed to someone or something. There is surely unavoidable enmity, opposition, hostility, and antagonism, between Christ and our Enemy namely Satan; between the body of Christ and all those who oppose God's love, for as Jesus said if the world hated Him we can only expect no better. I do not see evidence that God hates. Perhaps our disagreement is semantic. What do you mean by hate?

      • Louise Winant
        May 20, 2019 at 6:02 AM

        As to your request about loving the devil as myself…I think this is something of a strawman. To live in love is to oppose the devil. The devil, being devoid of all good, must be opposed completely because love demands enmity with evil.
        (Mark 10:18 ) And Jesus said to him, "Why callest thou me good? None is good but one, that is God." If you say that God hates the devil then in a sense are you not saying that hatred is a virtue? I noticed that you did not respond to my request that you explain what you mean by hatred. The devil is hatred personified. Is he not? The descriptions of him in scripture clarify the nature of his hatred (murderer, deceiver, he is pure malice…) while God is love personified. God loves, the devil hates. (he was a murder from the beginning) yet the relationship is not and can never be equal, the devil being created by God. I don't see the problem. God loves because "God is love". I don't understand Mr. Akin's notion that God loves the devil for the good traits that remain in him as there is no good left in the devil. He is totally corrupt. He is void of grace having rejected God's love totally. God loves because God cannot deny Himself. (2 Timothy 2:13) "If we believe not, he continueth faithful, he cannot deny himself." A good father whose child is in complete disobedience still loves his child. This is not a very good analogy as our goodness is not perfected, however it somewhat illustrates the point. The love of the father is not based on the worthiness of the son. It is based on his own goodness. It speaks of the father not the son. By the same token love demands opposition to evil. Love is in perpetual enmity with hate. They are diametrically opposed. God's love is immeasurably greater than the devil's hatred and malice. God and our Blessed Mother are implacably and completely opposed to the devil and his hatred for God and men. They are in enmity with the infernal one as all those who love God are… whether they realize it or not. The battle is won through love however. For example, Christians who oppose abortion do so because of love. Love of God demands opposition to evil. When a person is filled with the love of God he or she will oppose evil.

  2. James Privett
    December 24, 2018 at 2:30 AM

    I think we're all missing one serious point. God loves all His creations. That love doesn't stop, even if those creations subvert his will and sin without repenting. Now don't misunderstand me. I'm not saying God loves sin, like rape, murder, etc. On the contrary, He hates those actions and will judge anyone harshly who does not truly repent before their deaths. But just because He punishes sinners does not mean He doesn't love them. Nothing could be further from the truth.

    Think about it for a moment. When you were a child, your earthly father and mother would discipline you in some way, shape, or form when you disobeyed them. They'd punish you by spanking you, grounding you, taking away something you treasure for a time, etc. Now this is obviously a simple example and isn't on the same level as God's judgement, but one analogy holds true. When your parents disciplined you as a child, they didn't hate you. They did it out of love. It also hurt them greatly to do it, because they loved you.

    On that same token, God never hated Satan/Lucifer/Samael/Whatever moniker you want to use. He hated Satan's sins absolutely. He punished him for it and will punish him further at the end of days. However, I think it hurt God greatly to do so, because He loves him. I think it hurt Him to do it just like it hurts Him each time He has to send any of His creations to Hell.

  3. Reanell Tarmann
    November 29, 2018 at 3:28 PM

    Great comments and explanations. We were just discussing if God loves Lucifer. Thanks for the difference thoughts really helps decipher the truth, and I always make sure it's from God. Thanks be to God for the desire to understand him and his creation and his awesome amazing ways.

  4. Br. JP
    March 20, 2018 at 5:31 AM

    Jimmy Akin means that God loves the devil enough to keep the devil in being. If God ceased ‘loving’ the devil in this way, the devil would cease to exist, because God holds him in being even now.

    If there ‘was not a drop of God’s love in that beast,’ the devil could not continue to exist, because the devil still relies on God for his existence. I don’t think you intend to say this, but by saying God does not love the devil at all, you say that the devil is more powerful than Christ says he is.

    I think Jimmy Akin was clear and you misunderstood what he said.

    • Br JP
      March 20, 2018 at 5:34 AM

      Addendum to comment:

      And yes, the devil and all the demons are consigned to hell for all eternity. Revelation tells us that. God loves those in hell enough to keep them in existence, even if that existence is torture of their own making.

      • The WILDVOICE
        April 21, 2019 at 2:19 PM

        Please find the passage in which Jesus Christ tells us to "love the devil" as we love ourselves. Or to pray for him. Or to welcome demons into our lives with love.

        In the reality of Holy Scriptures Jesus instead stated the following:
        “You are just like your true father, the devil; and you spend your time pursuing the things your father loves. He started out as a killer, and he cannot tolerate truth because he is void of anything true. At the core of his character, he is a liar; everything he speaks originates in these lies because he is the father of lies.”
        ~ John 8:44

        In St. Louis De Montfort’s Marian treatise under the section 51 entitled “Exercise of This Function, Mary in the Struggle against Satan” he writes, “It is to our purpose to explain this here for the glory of the most holy Virgin, for the salvation of her children and for the confusion of the devil: “I will put enmities between thee and the woman and thy seed, she shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel” (Gen. 3:15).

        1. God had never made and formed but one enmity; but it is an irreconcilable one, which shall endure and grow even to the end.
        2. It is between Mary, His worthy Mother, and the devil—between the children, and the servants of the Blessed Virgin, and the children and tools of Lucifer.
        3. This most terrible of all the enemies which God has set up against the devil is His holy Mother Mary.
        4. He has inspired her – with so much hatred against that cursed enemy of God, with so much ingenuity in unveiling the malice of that ancient serpent, with so much power to conquer, to overthrow and to crush that proud, impious rebel – that he fears her not only more than all angels and men, but in a sense more than God Himself.
        5. Satan, being proud, suffers infinitely more from being beaten and punished by a little and humble handmaid of God, and Her humility has humbled him the more than the divine power; and secondly,
        6. Because God has given Mary such great power against the devils that – as they have often been obliged to confess, by the mouths of the possessed – that they fear one of her sighs for a soul more than the prayer of all the saints, and one of her threats against them more than all other torments.
        7. What Lucifer has lost by pride, Mary has gained by humility. What Eve has damned and lost by disobedience, Mary has saved by obedience. Eve, in obeying the serpent, has destroyed all her children together with herself, and has delivered them to him;
        8. Mary, in being perfectly faithful to God, has saved all her children and servants together with herself, and has consecrated them to His Majesty.
        9. God has not only set an enmity, but enmities, not simply between Mary and the devil, but between the race of the holy Virgin and the race of the devil’ that is to say, God has set enmities, antipathies and secret hatreds between the true children and servants of Mary and the children and slaves of the devil. They have no love for each other. They have no sympathy for each other.
        10. The children of Belial, the slaves of Satan, the friends of the world (for it is the same thing) have always up to this time persecuted those who belong to our Blessed Lady, and will in the future persecute them more than ever; just as Cain, of old, persecuted his brother Abel, and Esau his brother Jacob, who are the figures of the reprobate and the predestined.
        11. But the humble Mary will always have the victory over that proud spirit, and so great a victory that she will go so far as to crush his head, where his pride dwells. She will always discover the malice of the serpent. She will always lay bare his infernal plots and dissipate his diabolical councils, and even to the end of time guard her faithful servants from his cruel claw.

    • The WILDVOICE
      April 11, 2018 at 10:28 AM

      Dear Br. JP,

      By saying what you say you commit a heresy, for God's eternal enemy is the devil. If we were to deem all the things that exist as "loved by God because He Keeps them into existence", then we could say the following:

      God loves abortion because it exists.
      God loves war because it exists.
      God loves murder because it exists.
      God loves hatred because it exists.
      God loves rape because it exists.
      In one word, we could say that "God loves sin".

      Fortunately for us, we know better than this, for God Hates sin as such was the cause of the Death of the God-Man, Our Lord Jesus Christ.
      God cannot be in the presence of evil and of the very cause of the same — Satan who is the devil himself. And for the same reason, He Casts into eternal perdition all those souls who have become what Jesus Christ clearly defined as "the children of Satan".

      I hope this will clarify the error for you.

      God Bless + + +

      • Daughter of Mary
        November 5, 2018 at 11:07 AM

        Sin is the absence of “God’s will” he did not created sin, he created BEINGS that are able to sin, but are also able to love freely by their own decision. It was us and the devil that created sin by not following God’s will on the garden and now on earth. All the sins are produced by us and the devil. God allows it to show us mercy and love. But also give us the grace to avoid sin if we ask for it.

  5. terrianwilliams69@yahoo.com
    March 11, 2016 at 12:32 AM

    God will send Satan into the Lake of Fire in the End—as God created this for the devil and the fallen angels, so this will be the final Judgment for satan….but until then, God will allow satan to tempt man, but that's all Satan can do, is tempt, he cannot kill—God gives us every act of Grace to help us overcome sin, since Jesus won the war against satan, but Jesus's followers still have to fight the skirmishes.

    • CatholicPerson
      July 17, 2017 at 12:58 PM

      Satan and the fallen created hell, and according to him, God never even thought of creating it (As per Fr. Amorth in interrogating Satan). God allows Satan and the fallen to use their free will (including to possess, to tempt, oppress, etc., and indeed God loves all of his creation. However, that doesn't mean that because he loves all creation that he will not punish as he sees fit. Satan is the ruler of this world in fact (even Jesus acknowledged this – but that's not to even suggest that Satan is more powerful than God – in fact Satan is a creature – God is God) and one day Jesus will end this reign. God allows people to be oppressed and be oppressed at times (not simply at Satan and the will of the principalities of fallen) because either they wish it, or he feels it can be a test of their fail and strengthen their faith. Many Saints in fact were tormented by the diabolic, especially later in life.

  6. Manuel Navoa
    October 7, 2015 at 2:16 AM

    Can you have your videos be copied and be send to my address. I will show them to as many places as I can so that many will know . Here is my address you can send the the videos you can copy in DVD and all your articles you can send to my address I will show them to many and explain them to know the sufferings being done to our Loving God. My address Manuel Navoa, c/o Benjamin Aguilar, PWHS, Unit E2 Gueventville 1, Calbayhog Street, Mandaluyong City, Philippines. God will grant you blessings. spread them to all and God will bless you.

    • Terrian Williams
      March 11, 2016 at 12:22 AM

      God loves all His creation, and creatures. If God didn't care about Lucifer, then why did He not destroy him when si. was found in Lucifer???? And why did God allow satan, now, to still exist in the Garden of Eden?? God uses Satan to test the love we say we have for God—God is uses that which causes suffering to purify His people to bring about a greater good. Now, we are not God, so our thoughts are not God's thoughts and our ways are not God's ways, therefore, though, I agree with Jimmy Akin–the Church has been around for 2016 years, Truth has been revealed to the Church, God gives illumination to those who want to go into the Deep things of God.

      • Terrian Williams
        March 11, 2016 at 12:26 AM

        That is "sin" was found in him (Lucifer).

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