POPE FRANCIS on ALLOWING FORGIVENESS

September 25, 2014

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~ Jesus understands our weaknesses and sins; and he forgives us if we allow ourselves to be forgiven ~
 – Pope Francis on Twitter – Sept. 25, 2014

 

Today I felt compelled to share this very sophisticated literary labyrinth of ambiguous spiritual trickery. Produced by False Prophet Pope Francis, this quote has reached its global status earlier this morning, on September 25 2014.
Upon reading the statement, my spirit felt neither the heat of fire nor the frigidity of ice. It was rather the subtraction of All Divine from His Own Substance that left my spirit in a state of lethargy. The magician has taken the white dove out of his top hat to solely prove the presence of God's Spirit to us; once he convinced the watchers of God's reality he must now quickly dissolve that spirit into that dark hat so as to magically subtract God's Dove from our sight.
And what does he show us at the very end of his routine? An empty hat. And that empty hat is the most faithful representation of my lethargic spiritual state earlier today.

But I did not mechanically applaud at the end of the number of which propaganda we took a screenshot:

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I would like to ask for your opinion and spiritual insight in regards to the Pope's trick-or-twit. It is in its apparent simplicity that lays the complex and invisible deceit of our Enemy's doctrine: what is the trick? Just like a million dollar mansion being on sale at 0% down payment and 0% interests for five years, doesn't this Jesus' road resemble Rodeo Drive much more than a narrow path to Mt. Calvary?

And what happened to the bird? Where does God's Holy Spirit go every time the occult claw of the Dragon makes it 'disappear'?
And if the dove is the Holy Spirit, is the top hat representing each one of us? Each soul?
Or are we, instead, sitting in an audience blinded by a few simple tricks which we BELIEVE to be magic? And if so, could that top hat be God's Word? Or God's Church?  

Personally, I'm a bit confused – this is why I need your help to solve this puzzle.
Here, for example, I drew a few interpretations, knowing that there could be so many others inside each one of you:

1) "Jesus Forgives us if WE allow OURSELVES to be forgiven"
2) "Jesus Christ Forgives us IF WE ALLOW ourselves"
Therefore, Jesus Christ's Choice to forgive us depends on us giving permission to our own selves to be forgiven by a Perfect Judge we cannot control?
3) "IF we GRANT the ALMIGHTY to FORGIVE US, then HE FORGIVES US"

One last detail: please note that in the screenshot, the pronoun 'he' starts with a low cap even though it refers to Jesus Christ. Shouldn't a Pope make 'religious' use of the 'Capitalization Rule' each time a pronoun substitutes the Name of Jesus Christ?
After all, he seemed to pay full attention to each detail during the application process of the Summorum Pontificum over the Old Mass Rite called Usus Antiquior still practiced by the Franciscan Friars. Pope Francis put an end to the rite's use within the order by declaring:
1) there is no compulsion to use the Usus Antiquior.

2) this choice of the Usus Antiquior is not motivated by an ideological rejection of the Novus Ordo.
Irony of prophecy, indeed, shows us that even great magicians can be unmasked, sometimes. Mario Bergoglio, the one who took his name after St. Francis of Assisi, turned out to be the very persecutor and divider of the order founded by his "role model". But 800 years earlier, the Saint predicted that a Pope would have divided and destroyed the order of friars he founded. We read:
"The devils will have unusual power, the immaculate purity of our Order, and of others, will be so much obscured that there will be very few Christians who will obey the true Sovereign Pontiff and the Roman Church with loyal hearts and perfect charity. At the time of this tribulation a man, not canonically elected, will be raised to the Pontificate, who, by his cunning, will endeavor to draw many into error and death".
Did Saint Francis of Assisi know that the not canonically elected Pontificate he spoke of would be his very counterfeit?

Pardon me for having deviated from the original subject of this article, but it can be hard for a wild voice to remain focused on one track when dozens of others are being developed daily.
This time is very challenging for us, with all its unceasing neurosis for the 'news', for the 'new thing': this is why we now challenge YOU to transform into the newest analyst of this unceasingly neurotic place: our world.

 

12 comments for “POPE FRANCIS on ALLOWING FORGIVENESS

  1. September 1, 2015 at 4:04 PM

    Today I heard on the news that Pope Francis said that a person who had an abortion can go to a priest for confession instead of a Bishop for confession of this sin and be forgiven. Has this Pope Francis the authority to do this.
    On a message addressed to Maria Divine Mercy from Our Lord dated March 17 2015 (Father of love and mercy) this sin cannot be forgiven. Regardless whether it is euthanasia or to kill someone from the moment of conception.
    I find this so terrible. May God have mercy on those who do this. He also said that those excommunicated Pius X
    priests can give confession and the sins of the people are forgiven. Sincerely in Jesus and Mary. Cassilda

  2. Luzviminda P. Legaspi
    December 19, 2014 at 8:00 PM

    "………..If we allow ourselves to be forgiven". "Pope" Francis suggests something about Jesus. The words "allow ourselves" give me the impression that the sinner, man, subordinates God to forgive him. God seems to be under the mercy of man when, instead, it is the sinner's duty to ask for forgiveness – because in need of it – and not the other way around (God needing forgiveness). Why should the sinner let God wait until he (the sinner) allows Him (the latter) to forgive?

  3. CJ
    December 19, 2014 at 7:05 AM

    I think the Pope is referring to the verse in 1 John 1:9, " If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. ". For me, the part of 'if we allow ourselves to be forgiven' means applying in life the forgiveness Jesus Christ gave us.

    Many already know that Jesus Christ forgives our sins, but does not imply it in their lives, thus allowing themselves to be condemned by the voices in their head or simply Satan saying that they are hated, unforgiven, unloved because of their sin then taking that entitlement. But Romans 8:1, 'There is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. ' The point of knowing the unconditional love of God and His forgiveness means condemnation is gone, that He already gave us an identity that no one can take away. That we are His children, we are blessed and favored, forgiven and loved.* In reference with the Bible.

    Going back to what the Pope says, "Jesus understands our weaknesses and sins; and he forgives us if we allow ourselves to be forgiven." It simply means that we are already forgiven but we ourselves sometimes forget that. The Pope is saying that we should live that forgiveness in order to feel it, and embrace it the true meaning of it.

  4. Luzviminda P. Legaspi
    December 18, 2014 at 7:22 PM

    I confessed to a Blessed Sacrament priest ordained in the New Rite of Ordination, my doubts of the Novus Ordo Mass, that I did not come to take part of it for 3 months and not receive communion because if all the new priest receive invalid ordination, then there is no transubstantiation taking place in the mass. Besides, the novus ordo mass is said to be the mass of the counterfeit catholic church created by the pseudo-ecumenical Vatican Council II. The priest told me to stop believing and doubting otherwise I would be rejecting God Himself. My problem is, after my confession, I still don't receive Holy Communion because my conscience insists that Jesus's Body, soul, and divinity is not present in the novus ordo mass. Sincerely I do not reject God, Jesus, and his Church, and I'm looking for true priests, true sacraments especially the Eucharist, and the true Church. The words of "pope" Francis alarmed me so much. Please help me find the Truth.

  5. Jas
    October 5, 2014 at 8:20 AM

    I think Pope Francis means on "Jesus forgives us if we will allow ourselves to be forgiven" was we our allowing ourselves to be forgiven by confessing our sins to God.. by confessing we are open about our mistakes.

    • The WILDVOICE
      October 6, 2014 at 7:44 PM

      Hello Jas,

      And thank you for the comment.

      You gave a good answer on how to seek Christ's forgiveness. You took your time to say "we our allowing ourselves to be forgiven by confessing our sins to God – by confessing we are open about our mistakes". But By doing so, you have credited him with something that YOU have said and which he DID NOT say.

      In the article, we mentioned 'magic' because, often, our minds and hearts play some tricks on us. Just as if watching a magic routine, a movie, or a politician speaking: how much are we putting our trust in them? If an actor did not have an audience who could BELIEVE, he could never be BELIEVED when saying his lines. And the audience would be saddened by the disappointment of that love story being 'fake'. Sometimes, during the performance, we "get out of the story" and suspend its reality by seeing it as what it truly is: 'fiction'; but don't we consciously and quickly find ourselves seeking to re-ignite our ability to 'believe' again what we know to be false to begin with? Do people WANT to believe Pope Francis to be saying what he never said?
      From what you wrote, I would dare to assume his quote to not be enriching you with a refreshed 'revelation' or a new 'challenge'. I said 'dare to assume' as to clarify such statement to be merely a personal opinion which is, obviously, more than arguable. In our observation we explained the way we felt when reading such quote: where is the challenge that Christ launched 2,000 years ago? Where is that sharp razor blade that cuts our sleepiness into a renewed sense of reality and of duty? When our Lord Spoke, the crowds were left speechless by His powerful life-changing words. He was always ten steps ahead of everybody else. And when He Left this world, His Holy Spirit continued the work He Stared through His Church – the Popes, the Bishops, the Doctors, and the Saints.

      Thanks for visiting our pages, Jas.
      You seem to be very clear in regards to the subject of forgiveness; therefore, may God Continue to Bless and Protect you ~
      ALWAYS.

      ~ Paul ~

  6. Pastor Bud
    September 28, 2014 at 10:12 PM

    God gave us free will to choose what path we take and who we choose to believe in as a higher power. With that free will, we can choose to ask Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of our sins or not. He will not forgive us unless we ask him for it. Does a car dealer come up and give you a new car just because he wants to? No you need to come up with your part of the deal, in this case the money or the financing. Jesus Christ works the same way, Jesus has already paid the price for the forgiveness of our sins by dying on the cross and shedding every last drop of blood for us, but in order to be forgiven you must come up with your part of the deal. You must ask Jesus Christ for that forgiveness. Now that is not an expensive deal and it's very easy to do. I pray all of you make that deal with the Lord and ask for your forgiveness. It is the only way to Heaven and Eternal Life……Pastor Bud

    • The WILDVOICE
      September 30, 2014 at 6:58 AM

      Hello Pastor Bud,

      And thanks for the comment.

      I will cut and paste your comment and then Pope Francis':

      "God gave us free will to choose what path we take and who we choose to believe in as a higher power. With that free will, we can choose to ask Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of our sins or not. He will not forgive us unless we ask him for it. Does a car dealer come up and give you a new car just because he wants to? No you need to come up with your part of the deal, in this case the money or the financing. Jesus Christ works the same way, Jesus has already paid the price for the forgiveness of our sins by dying on the cross and shedding every last drop of blood for us, but in order to be forgiven you must come up with your part of the deal. You must ask Jesus Christ for that forgiveness. Now that is not an expensive deal and it's very easy to do. I pray all of you make that deal with the Lord and ask for your forgiveness. It is the only way to Heaven and Eternal Life". ~ PASTOR BUD ~

      "Jesus understands our weaknesses and sins; and he forgives us if we allow ourselves to be forgiven" ~ POPE FRANCIS I ~ JESUS CHRIST'S VICAR ~ THE LEADER OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH ~

      There is quite a big difference between your explanation and his. In my article I mentioned 'magic' because (often) our minds and hearts play some tricks on us. You see? Just as if watching a magic routine, a movie, or a politician speaking, how much are we putting our trust in them? If an actor did not have an audience who could BELIEVE, he could never be BELIEVED when saying his lines. And the audience would be saddened by the disappointment of that love story being 'fake'. Sometimes, during the performance, we "get out of the story" and suspend its reality by seeing it as what it truly is: 'fiction'; but don't we consciously and quickly find ourselves seeking to re-ignite our ability to 'believe' again what we know to be false to begin with? Do people WANT to believe Pope Francis to be saying what he never said?
      From what YOU wrote, I would dare to assume his quote to not be enriching you with a refreshed 'revelation' or 'challenge'. I said 'dare to assume' as to clarify such statement to be merely a personal opinion which is, obviously, more than arguable. In my observation I explained the way I felt when reading such quote: where is the challenge that Christ launched 2,000 years ago? Where is that sharp razor blade that cuts our sleepiness into a renewed sense of reality and of duty? When our Lord Spoke, the crowds were left speechless by His powerful life-changing words. He was always ten steps ahead of everybody else. And when He Left this world, His Holy Spirit continued the work He Stared through His Church – the Popes, the Bishops, the Doctors, and the Saints.

      Here is a short quote from Francis' predecessor Pope Benedict XVI in regards to forgiveness: "The church needs to profoundly relearn penitence, accept purification, learn forgiveness but also justice". In such short statement, he included the same elements YOU included: penitence, purification, forgiveness…justice". The lower-cased "c" for 'church' indicates that the word is referring to the people of God: the sinners in need of constant reconciliation. And by saying 'the church NEEDS to PROFOUNDLY RELEARN…" he is challenging us and waking us up with some ice-cold water.
      His message is clear. It is complete. It is correcting. It is teaching. It is merciful. It is just. It is real.

      Have we ever stopped to wonder how often we project our hopeful ideas onto others? It might be that the good-intentioned faithful are projecting their faith and belief onto Francis, crediting him with what he has not done or said. You, for example, seem to have done all the work for him by explaining what he has not explained. We might say 'it 's understood', but when witnessing (just like in a courtroom) nothing is ever 'in between the lines' but always spoken. If I were new to this religion, would I interpret his quote in the way you did? How much of what we see and hear comes from us, our hope, and our wishful thinking? How long before the wife admits to herself that for all those years she wanted to believe that her unfaithful husband still loved her? She could not deal with that truth and she projected her love unto him.

      …But he did not love her. He hurt her. Would this phrase "Jesus understands our weaknesses and sins; and he forgives us if we allow ourselves to be forgiven" potentially hurt a person's spiritual well-being? I am pondering. I am questioning. After all, a Pope's statement MUST be analyzed deeply: He is the POPE.

      ~ Jesus understands our weaknesses and sins; and He forgives us if we allow ourselves to be forgiven ~

      Firstly, we all know one basic concept: God understands all things. To say that Jesus understands our weaknesses and sins WITHOUT expanding on it (and without the necessary clarifications of all possible erroneous applications of that same statement) can easily lead to dangerous counterfeited notions of spiritual emptiness. If intentional, this is yet another very sophisticated literary labyrinth of ambiguous spiritual trickery out of the sugar gospel according to Bergoglio. A perfect weapon visible only to those who have eyes to see.

      Behind the usual Bergoglio's all loving, all merciful, and zero judgmental version of Christ, the word to UNDERSTAND means to ACCEPT. It also entails a more intrinsic evil suggesting that Jesus RELATES (understands) to our sinfulness. It is because of Our Redeemer's understanding of all things, including sin, that the specification on His repugnance towards the same remains an essential priority for the preservation of the True Faith from the eroding winds of humanism. Lacking this second segment, the teaching has been subtly changed through the grave sin of omission of truth. And although the words utilized (as well as their positioning) do not suggest any visible deviant doctrine, it is rather in the absence of clarity through an exhaustive analysis that this twit lacks of any divine revelation, transcendental inspiration, and spiritual invigoration. Consequently, due to the vulnerability of our weak nature inducing us towards the 'easier' and the 'self-pleasing', we expose ourselves to what Pope Francis has speculated upon since the very beginning ~ confusion.

      Tangentially, Christ does not understand our attraction to sin. He Hates sin because His uncreated Substance Remains perennially all holy, all divine, all perfect. His humanity, having been formed in the immaculate tabernacle of the Mystical Rose, did not fully understand the innate fascination towards evil, so common for you and I, ashes of despicable nature. We shall add that, although Christ's absolute and eternal perfection had kept Him untouched by the natural attraction toward the same darkness that sentenced Adam into death, He experienced it both in the entirety of the whole and in the partiality of each (human) fragment during His last hours: the Passion.

      As often, Pope Bergoglio manages to dismiss the perfectly inter-completing dichotomies which, being present within the Living Mystery, re-establish in us the sound realization of a debt which, impossible to pay back, forces our conscience to urgently seek a perfect remission of our sins through true repentance in the Sacrament of Reconciliation, and proper self-sacrificial retribution in the Sacrament of Penance.

      Surely, the Lord comprehends all things. But, as seen in this case, a simple "Jesus understands" reduces Our Glorious Master to the level of an impotent captive in the hands of men whose self-accommodating options might, eventually, allow them to seek a forgiveness which might not even be granted by God unless true repentance is present in the sinner's heart.
      Let us look for the word repentance one more time: "Jesus understands our weaknesses and sins; and He forgives us if we allow ourselves to be forgiven".

      One more thought ~

      A person had cancer and went to a doctor asking "How do I take care of this problem?"
      The doctor replied "You are cured if you allow yourself to be cured."

      God Bless you and thanks again for the reply —

  7. xian
    September 26, 2014 at 8:15 PM

    I think you're so pathetic. The forgiveness of Jesus is offered for the many who will receive his sacrificial act and his person as the redeeming oblation for our sins and as he is the Savior. The fact that Benedict XVI in his retranslation of the Missale Romanum emphasized that 'qui pro vobis et pro multis' means for you and for the many and not for you and for all as in the previous edition exemplifies that the salvific grace that is already potent cannot be obtained unless we do not recognize that we are sinners and are in need of reparation. So that 'if' of Pope Francis is correct – and you're corrective and degrading remarks are substantially wrong.

    • The WILDVOICE
      September 27, 2014 at 11:07 PM

      Hello Xian,

      Thanks for the comment. I appreciated the details in your 'report', but I believe you might have missed the point of the post – and of the comment I later wrote.

      Francis said ~ Jesus understands our weaknesses and sins; and he forgives us if we allow ourselves to be forgiven ~

      Firstly, we all know one basic concept: God understands all things. To say that Jesus understands our weaknesses and sins WITHOUT expanding on it (and without the necessary clarifications of all possible erroneous applications of that same statement) can easily lead to dangerous counterfeited notions of spiritual emptiness. If intentional, this is yet another very sophisticated literary labyrinth of ambiguous spiritual trickery out of the sugar gospel according to Bergoglio. A perfect weapon visible only to those who have eyes to see.

      Behind the usual Bergoglio's all loving, all merciful, and zero judgmental version of Christ, the word to UNDERSTAND means to ACCEPT. It also entails a more intrinsic evil suggesting that Jesus RELATES (understands) to our sinfulness. It is because of Our Redeemer's understanding of all things, including sin, that the specification on His repugnance towards the same remains an essential priority for the preservation of the True Faith from the eroding winds of humanism. Lacking this second segment, the teaching has been subtly changed through the grave sin of omission of truth. And although the words utilized (as well as their positioning) do not suggest any visible deviant doctrine, it is rather in the absence of clarity through an exhaustive analysis that this twit lacks of any divine revelation, transcendental inspiration, and spiritual invigoration. Consequently, due to the vulnerability of our weak nature inducing us towards the 'easier' and the 'self-pleasing', we expose ourselves to what Pope Francis has speculated upon since the very beginning ~ confusion.

      Tangentially, Christ does not understand our attraction to sin. He Hates sin because His uncreated Substance Remains perennially all holy, all divine, all perfect. His humanity, having been formed in the immaculate tabernacle of the Mystical Rose, did not fully understand the innate fascination towards evil, so common for you and I, ashes of despicable nature. We shall add that, although Christ's absolute and eternal perfection had kept Him untouched by the natural attraction toward the same darkness that sentenced Adam into death, He experienced it both in the entirety of the whole and in the partiality of each (human) fragment during His last hours: the Passion.

      As often, Pope Bergoglio manages to dismiss the perfectly inter-completing dichotomies which, being present within the Living Mystery, re-establish in us the sound realization of a debt which, impossible to pay back, forces our conscience to urgently seek a perfect remission of our sins through true repentance in the Sacrament of Reconciliation, and proper self-sacrificial retribution in the Sacrament of Penance.

      Surely, the Lord comprehends all things. But, as seen in this case, a simple "Jesus understands" reduces Our Glorious Master to the level of an impotent captive in the hands of men whose self-accommodating options might, eventually, allow them to seek a forgiveness which might not even be granted by God unless true repentance is present in the sinner's heart.
      Let us look for the word repentance one more time: "Jesus understands our weaknesses and sins; and he forgives us if we allow ourselves to be forgiven".

      May God Bless and Assist you in all your earthly endeavors.
      And May Mary Most Holy envelope your heart in her pure mantle of protection,

      ~ Paul ~

  8. winfredmcconnelldischler@yahoo.com
    September 25, 2014 at 10:46 PM

    –sorry ::typos::

  9. winfredmcconnelldischler@yahoo.com
    September 25, 2014 at 10:45 PM

    your take is my take

    i also take issue with namesake–having declare "day one," francie THE FIRST is "the holy roman emperor." not SAINT francie. look up francis 1<+3

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